comrade simba

Wow - flashbacks to the couple of really ugly craves I went through. There were three of them so bad I had to call someone and come into chat. They sure sucked at the time but hindsight shows they were at most twenty minutes long. Perspective - added up I have less than 12 hours of discomfort involved in this quit and I'm a long term started as a kid heavy smoker. Marti - that one you went through is more than likely the worst it will be. You established a protocol to deal with the next one (if one occurs) so you got it covered. Good for you.

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Sorry- dropped call. What was it again?

and you get a very large storybook. I insert a 1948 rotary dial Bell telephone

Jack pops out "Hi Jack... want some pancakes?"(Robin Williams in "Survivor") As a quantum experiment I insert another coke machine into the coke machine.

And you get a garden where everything grows perfectly... and get kicked out by God. I throw a damn towel in the coke machine

and happily walk away knowing it's all fixed now. I put in a passport application

Hahahaha - you'll never catch up!

Check yourself into a hospital. Let your psychiatrist decide when you should think about beginning another quit. Cheerleading another one of your quits when nothing has changed isn't support at this point, it's just ignorance at best and meanness at worst. This isn't meant to be tough love or anything of the sort - it's just caring about your well being.

O god... next thing ya know will be mandatory group calisthenics.

Before criticizing someone, walk a mile in their shoes. Then when you do criticize them, you will be a mile away and have their shoes..

You have to get used to not crushing them, too, so go for durability or replace often until you get familiar with them.

Maybe every tenth time I walk by a beer cooler or aisle at a store the beer alarm will go off. It's no big deal and I sort of do the same thing babs does. "Uh huh yeah right can't wait to sleep under a bridge soon" or the likes... and then just move on. I quit drinking 14 years ago. I figure in the future that's the way it will be if I walk by a cigarette rack or something. Time takes time. A forty year habit integral with every aspect of life from first thing in the morning to last thing at night isn't going away poof just like that. It's annoying, but it IS.

I nominate that for Quote of the Week. Gotta make sure to avoid creating a system in which you get a big wide "c'mon in" when you show up and are then led, guided or squeezed down an ever narrowing cattle chute. That is a social phenomenon that has destroyed countless numbers of good intentions. Like I said in some previous post, if the above happens, all who don't subscribe to a certain "train" of thought will just leave after the attraction to this and other places just like it wears off. What will be left - the long term elders, priest class whatever will all read from the same playbook - and use the fact that they are all on the same page to claim a gospel truth of the teaching. This is the pitfall I'm afraid will be the fate of this place. Listen to what bandito said above. Or not. Hey, I got popcorn.

I just love the way my wife puts things. So ... collected, maybe? Me - eh, I'm a whole lot cruder with a mean streak and I like to think how tunes would change after a couple years of shooting dope or balls to the wall alcoholism. Just think - millions and millions of addicts and alcoholics have been so wrong for so long re will power. Staggering I tell ya... just staggering. Who knows? Could be that addiction to nicotine is pretty fluffy compared to hard core drug abuse. After about two days I knew there wasn't any physical withdrawal going on. The smoking deal was all a psyche deal and I'm now leaning towards believing everyone's battle with the head is individually colored by their own particular daemons. I got some pretty dark places inside that got covered up by lighting up. Blood, knives, guns, dumpsters back allys and excursions into the desert with shovels... creaks on stairs after midnight and the smell of booze... where's my car... name that bruise... dogs and swamps ...and locks and iron doors Be my guest and decorate the quit train like a hindu festival... just keep a single battleship gray boxcar available for those who lived the things we don't and can't talk about.

@ Ava I just started with the thirty five. The kettlebell is not to be laughed at - it is the secret to the Russian Circus Strongmen of old. Might want to look into this MQ. If your interested I'll send you some links I have found useful.

That is useful info. Thanks.

And you get The Village People. I insert a life preserver

Bandito - By my mid 40's I needed a boost to read. I have cheap 1.25 magnification glasses for computer, reading and detail work. This last year I seem to need them more and more and I take them on and off a lot so I'm going for heavy black plastic frames and a stupid string to hang them around my neck when I'm digging post holes or feeding the pigs etc. I could care less about "fashion" - somebody stupid enough to call me a nerd gonna hafta call 911.

I started with okay, let's see. That moved into hmm... this may be possible. Followed by wow this is bizarre - it's been days. After that so far it's been not wanting to toss the quit away. The Psychology of Previous Investment is keeping my quit good enough while the long term benefits slowly show themselves. I've never been one for Rah Rah! pep talk; for the most part my quit has been very slow, careful and deliberate - hunting, if you will. YMMV

Why is an elephant big and gray? If it was small and white it would be an aspirin.

And I can't quite figure out what came out because it's all slurred. I put in a couple of asprin

And you drop 40 IQ points. I insert a can of sterno

Honest truth is I'm personally enjoying watching industrial civilization collapsing, the social order degrading itself, and the dominant culture eating its tail. Nostalgia is just cheerleading for Empire.

That's pretty much the deal isn't it? Works both ways. Can't chat in an empty room for long y'know?