JB 883

The mouth dropping open and snoring is to keep the flies away

Update - I only smoked about 12 packs of Camel non-filters since starting this thread so I am not doing too bad. Only two packs a day. OK kidding aside - I managed to make it through that tough period. At some point Sunday Jan 14th, it is like the intense craves just kind of stopped. They hit hard and sudden then just... gone. So I guess it is back down to "I would like one" instead of going nuts wanting one.

Berk, you are doing great. One thing I was not prepared for though so hopefully others can be is this - At some point (three months for me) cravings come back and hit real hard. When that day (or days) does come, do NOT give in. I almost did myself but would now be back at square one.

It doesn't take long for our bodies to make great strides in recovery after we quit. Pretty nice really because even though the lungs may take a while to repair but at least we get to enjoy things like no rattling, mouth not feeling as gross, not smelling like an ash tray, being able to taste and smell, etc within a few days.

Dreams seldom have anything to do with what we want to do or not in waking life. I had dreams once in a while that I was smoking years before i started. I do not think there is any rhyme or reason to dreams. They can be interesting though. It is kind of a relief waking up from a smoking dream and realizing we didn't actually smoke.

I gotta say this about people retiring or planning on it - sometimes they are trying to calculate their retirement savings but their obstacles include - paying off a divorce settlement or two, paying off a house, credit cards, putting their two or three kids through some fancy college, trying to buy a new car... I think, Just how much were they making in the first place?! Everyone always acts like they do not have a pot to piss in yet some people are high six/low seven figures in the hole from above things, trying to maintain everyday expenses, AND they are saving money? Sirius - All that sounds like great advice! But, it is also like explaining a Thanksgiving dinner recipe to some starving family in Ethiopia. Well like, socking away $1,000 a month right now isn't quite possible as that is just about what I bring home. Of course the GOVT thinks I am rich. I buy brand name hot dogs! I do not have any assets except an older car that would probably bring $1,000. But then I would not have a way around. I do have a room mate in this house that I "rent" but do not own. Breaking even there. Did you know the fastest way to cause someone to lose their job is to take them into your home to live? It is like the same week they move in, somehow they lose their job. Kind of like how loaning money to someone causes them to have amnesia. You know how some people sell off their stuff to try to raise money to retire or whatever? Used stuff, heirlooms, antiques etc doesn't bring in NEARLY the cash people think it will AND they are out the things they enjoy. What I have in the way of "things" ain't worth squat and I am sure not going to deprive myself of it just to make a few bucks that would soon be spent on some unexpected B.S. that life always throws our way. So tell me more about living down by the river?

Three months might have a battle in store. I was stupid though, looking through some smoking related junk on the web, old ads. But as quick as the hard crave came, it went. BTW, it looks now like you are on your 8th day, meaning MORE than a week Quit.

Weight gain may or may not happen but yeah, you will likely obsess about food for a while. However, do not be shocked if some foods start to taste gross. I can no longer eat peanut butter, it just tastes like a stale burp. Mostly though you just start to notice flavors a lot more. Even though, over-eating is probably better than smoking.

Mods/admin - If this song just isn't corny enough to be posted and must be deleted, I would hope I do not receive a warning. I try not to take sides in battle of the sexes but here it is - When the sticks are winning, they do a special chant. It is the same one heard at the beginning of this song. I heard this song last night at work, and besides thinking, "WT actual F?" I thought, I bet the sticks chant this when winning". So chicks, even when we are lagging behind, just let the sticks have their fun. it ain't gonna kill us except we might die laughing. THAT is how I want to go.

Get back when you can. Kind of nice when a familiar face sticks around.

Going great As you know, quitting has ups and downs but overall it does get easier.

Oh yeah, the fogginess, fatigue, wanting to sleep, QUITE normal a couple weeks into the Quit. Though when I went through it, I was enjoying it. Any sort of "natural high" is awesome. It was like being able to coast through some of the early quit days on cruise control. I think if we were fully alert during all the early days of Quit, we would go nuts. My advice - enjoy it. I think about the third week is when we snap out of it and the crave says, "Sleep well? Can we smoke now?" Just do NOT light up.

You made it past the three day mark which to some is a killer. Supposedly three week and three month are also huge speed bumps. Three week didn't phase me but three month, I nearly went out to buy some. Ups and downs yes but overall it gets easier, especially when you notice the good effects of no smoking.

Yeah I think it mostly passed because today i have not wanted to smoke any more than I usually do, which the craves are rather weak. Hopefully it is gone anyways. I didn't really do much other than write here about getting hit with an "out of nowhere" crave. I NOW know exactly what caused it though- Have you ever heard the expression "When I have sex it is so good that even the neighbors need a cigarette after"? I believe my neighbor was getting pretty "romantic". Weird thing was, the crave hit about two hours after my neighbor's husband left for work and some other car pulled into the driveway. Good thing I do not live next to newlyweds. My "Quit" would be done long ago.

Ahh Ok I was all like, "If he lives THERE, then a vacation elsewhere would be silly." Not much excitement or scenery in Indiana either.

Tyme, the runner-up wins a date with him. You mean you looked at that photo hard enough to notice details?

Joe I assume that photo was your last trip to a warmer place than Ohio? Now if it IS your town in Ohio during typical spring/summer view, why the heck would you even NEED to go to Florida?

I am fine. Not feeling bad today. I am not going to be one of those who sign up here, get motivated about their quits, have a hard time, give up, and vanish. I still kind of want one but I keep thinking of how someone on here told me that trying to quit again after relapses is harder. I do not want to find out if that is true. Plus there are those stories on here and wherever about smokers who had to have this or that removed. I kind of want to go to my grave in one piece a long time from now. Shortly before I quit, I was thinking this a lot - "what if I am one of the 33% of smokers who dies of smoking related problems?" Guess i will have to forego my dream of being as sexy as Debi Austin

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Our weather doesn't look TOO bad for the following week. they are talking snow and freezing but not quite blizzard. I remember last year they predicted this huge ice storm one time and come the day of, nothing. Oh sure it was chilly out (30'ish) but no rain, snow ice, just... nothing. I told my room mate that I think sometimes when they predict an ice hell store or blizzard, it is grocery stores paying off the weather people so then everyone rushes out to over-buy groceries thinking they will be captive in their snow-buried homes until June.

I guess lighting up one would be like, "Well, THAT was worth blowing my quit". Yeah I do need to think of other things. This is embarrassing but I think I know what caused it - I was looking through some old cigarette (and other) ads. Yeah I like "vintage" stuff. Didn't think stupid cigarette ads would trigger anything. Oh well, lesson learned. Normally doesn't happen but came across one ad for a brand that I always had a weird fascination with (but not enough to ever buy any)

Not my typical post but we all get weak. So I made it a full three months. I have not smoked since Oct 6th but for some reason yesterday and today - crave has been hitting HARD like I never imagined. My first three days were no where near this bad, Up to this point, I was thinking, "Yeah it is a little tough to quit but not so bad". Right now it is a f*cking nightmare. My own response to my SOS has looked and sounded like, well, "Go ahead and buy some, you can quit again later, you are over 21, withdrawals are no big deal". These past two days, I am pissed. I want my GD smokes! I think of the brands and types I never tried, how awesome they might be. I keep thinking, "All I would have to do is walk into a tobacco shop and see which ones still exist that I knew about but never tried". I think of things like, "Who the hell is the world to tell me to stop enjoying something I did for 15 years? Gotta die of something". I know about "Just one and you are hooked again" and all that. Right now though, the logical side cannot get a word in because the emotional side is saying - "G.D. it! To heck with all that B.S! You are gonna go out there you are gonna buy some cigarettes and you are gonna SMOKE! Enough of this "Quit" B.S. smoke smoke smoke Smoke Smoke Smoke Smoke SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE! But here are the weird parts - Not just any cancer stick would do. If it were those cowboy killers or some cheapo crap I would reject in a heart beat. There are specific brands I want to try. Who the hell gets a nicotine fit but is picky? Second is I have no clue what is stopping me from actually going out and getting a pack. I think about buying them, having them, how exciting it would be to get my hands on a couple different ones I know about but never tried... Like the same rush one might get when buying a new outfit, phone, a sealed original pressing of a Barbara Mandrell LP whatever. Ok I am joking. Ha ha. No one gets a rush out of buying a original pressing sealed Barbara Mandrell LP. More like The Wall. OH that would be worth some dough! Ahem... So, for those people here who actually smoked/chewed/dipped/drank someone else's chew spit/licked ash trays/whatever then quit but later had to fight their asses off to defeat a nicotine fit after so many months, how did you survive? You know what I am feeling right now. How did you KTQ?

Looks like it isn't exactly free. Of course even at cost it is less than three packs of smokes, good investment. MOST people do want an "easy way" to quit smoking but what about that rare person who wants to stop smoking the hard way? What options might they have?

Boo it is not just math but English grammar (Or Engrish glamor, as man who not have no good language engrish learning yet might say) Look at the next lines in that song - No is the saddest experience you'll ever know Yes it's the saddest experience you'll ever know First he says "No" is the saddest... THEN he says "Yes" is the saddest. They cannot BOTH be the saddest. One can be second saddest. I did experience "No" once. It was quite sad.