JB 883

Well if someone is working on the fuel system of a bike, car, etc... that would be the time NOT to light up. Though if you do, it might well be your LAST smoke. Best case scenario is you will look like that Micheal Jackson Pepsi commercial that went wrong. And with NOPE - still not really my style personally. Mine is more like - listen to the inner voice explaining how relaxing and tasty a cigarette would be. Then I tell it, "yeah sounds great but fcuk you, I would rather live". If i ever do lose my job and have to do interviews again though, I will likely take the cigarettes back up. I mean how else would I be able to blow smoke up the asses of potential employers?

And like reciprocity said also. It is funny that not only did they deny that cigs were harmful, they acted like your health would improve. Marlboro used to have those "miles" and one of the so-called rewards was a damn bicycle. Yes. I will let someone else state the obvious about THAT one.

Octain - I do not really believe in "triggers" for smoking if someone smoked a lot. If someone smoked all the time, then is there such a thing as a non-trigger? All that aside - The overall desire mostly declines. The reason for my three month crave hitting bad was perhaps either timing or the fact that i was rummaging a bunch of old magazine ads (found a bunch of old mags at thrift) and of course cigarette ads were every other page back then. There was one brand I thought was particularly neat looking but I never actually smoked them. But yeah come Spring when you are in the garage with your bike, you will likely think of smoking but hopefully will not hit that three month thing. If you do, fight it like hell. I almost, almost caved during that time.

So this guy takes his G/F out on a date. He says, "Hey can you open the glove box and hand me my cigarettes?" She opens it and there is a box of condoms in there also. She is young and naive and asks what they were for. He is embarrassed and tells her, "OH those. Yeah, if you are smoking out in the rain, you put them over your cigarette so it won't get wet". A few days later she goes to the store to buy some smokes but then decides to get some condoms too. The pharmacist asks what size condom and she goes, "Something big enough to fit a camel". hyahhh hahahahah

Octain, maybe not because at least Gambler tobacco just wasn't very strong. When I would smoke an actual cigarette like marlboro or camel I would almost pass out. I do not think it adds to the addiction but I do know I jumped from 20 to 30 cigarettes a day making my own. One cause it was so cheap and also cause they just didn't have as much effect. By the time i finally quit, it wasn't even that tough. It took three months before any serious cravings hit. One of my ex friends who smokes used to mostly roll her own but would still buy actual packs like Camel. When I asked why she said, "Cause these (meaning rollies) just do not give me what i need". What she REALLY needs is to quit. You would walk into her home and I kid you not, it was just this haze from so much cigarette smoke. Her ENTIRE LIFE consisted of smoking and feeling sorry for herself. You know when I think of some of my friends who smoke, it is almost sad watching them feed that habit. just sitting there puffing away on a cig, looking dumb, smelling bad.

They claim EVERY addiction or whatever is enjoyed is "the worst". Of course they say that about cigarettes but after reading so many stories here about how someone smoked for 40+ years and hasn't died of cancer yet, I start to wonder how true it even is. Even if someone dies of smoking related stuff, who is to say they would not have died pretty close to that same time anyways of some other horrid ailment.

That makes sense about quoting. I wasn't on the web or knew much about computers until about 2000. When I see this thread title though it still makes me think of someone getting divorced. I think of my divorce as the time I lost 250 pounds overnight.

He must be popular with the ladies with something long and hard like that

Boo, it was about as damn silly as a commercial saying, "What exercise routine do you employ, Roseanne Barr?" Or asking a hipster what brand of razor he uses.

I am not on the fence about vaping. For me, no smoking means no replacement habits either. yeah some turn to NRT, weed, vape, whatever. That is not quitting though, it is just a lateral move. If I were going to keep up a bad habit, it would be cigarettes. No point in having multiple addictions. Would it be funny though if someone - smoked weed, cigarettes, cigars, vaped, chewed, dipped, use the patch, gum, and chantix all at the same time? Plus they drank moonshine, used heroin, crack, meth, LSD, ecstasy, huffed paint, AND, AND... were on a sugar high from drinking a gallon of pepsi? All while being addicted to watching porn on their cell phone while trying to drive on a busy street? thing is that sounds kind of like some of my old friends. Could not even stand up straight but then try to drive. I do not screw around with chemicals. I watch dumb asses in action and think, "I do not want that to be me".

Yeah it is pretty cool here. Even a new person can drop in and feel like they have been part of the place for years. They even let ME stick around.

The problem with vape is it is a bigger lie than even the cigarette. Vaping MIGHT be less harmful but whether or not it is less so, they have used cigarettes as a scapegoat. Both have the same advertising scams. It is sexy, sophisticated, doctors recommend it, etc. The big problem is that they do not know the long term effects of vaping just yet. So in the meantime, they will act like it is "just water vapor" or "just car antifreeze". People will buy into it. You will find study after study talking about how vape is not harmful. They are going to tell every lie imaginable while they still can. Do you want to believe that shit? If it were safe, why would they make it addictive? if it were safe, there would be no need to make vape addictive, nor cigarettes, etc. I remember the first time i heard of vaping, I was like, "if it is just water vapor, why not carry around a spray bottle of water and breathe that instead? It would be way cheaper". One thing vape and tobacco companies have in common though - They think it is hilarious when people buy into the lies and even die from using their product. Their only regret is that they will not get revenues from their dead customers, which is why they need to recruit new customers. We all enjoy this forum but there are some who hate, detest it. Guess who. Yep... Tobacco and vape companies HATE forums like this one and any other place where people encourage each other not to smoke. So what about you, kitkat? Do you want to be a case study on the long term effects of vaping or do you want to give up that bullshit and switch instead to - breathing FRESH air? Unless you live in L.A. or have like a dozen animals in the house. Fresh air is free, actually does GOOD things for the lungs, and our crooked-ass GOVT has not found a way to directly charge tax on it YET. Besides, who wants the hassle of having to work vape into inconvenient time slots like going out in shit weather just to poison themselves?

The strange part is that it wasn't even that hard for me to quit. The struggle did not start til three months in. I doubt there have been any solid studies on this but sometimes i wonder if maybe those who just cannot quit maybe smoked much stronger cigarettes than I did. I used to get my own tubes and this pipe tobacco called "Gambler" to make my own. TBH I am not even sure they contained any nicotine. They were some sorry-ass excuses for a smoke but come time to quit, it just didn't seem that hard. So part of it is - I figure I had an easy start to quitting, why throw it away? Someone on here told me also that each time someone relapses and tries to quit again, it is harder. It is weird also because when I first made a solid plan to quit (wean off over three days) I honest to God did not think I would last. Most of what I plan to do in life tends to not happen, I start and never finish. Maybe I am just too lazy and cheap to buy cigarettes. Sometimes I want a smoke like a country boy wants an inflatable sheep but no screw that. I will probably already have a heart attack from all the junk food I eat, no need to rush the process with smoking.

Plus in real life when I smell that someone has been smoking, the horrid smell, I think, "Do I want to be so fragrant again?"

Sarge, surprised to hear you had a relapse? Did I read that right?

Yep, the day after. Candy is 1/2 off. I plan on getting plenty for me and my room mate. I love her like a little sister. Like the kind of sister you have to kick her ass sometimes, not like a nun "sister". I think they lead celibate lives anyways. The problem is, she is kind of dating some woman. Yes... My room mate is a breed of dinosaur called a "likalotapus". So I am hoping there isn't this horrid display of jealousy. Maybe I should take a real nice photo of the candy i will give my room mate, post it on FB, and see if the feces hits the air circulator. There is one thing though, I am rather sad because Monday the 19'th is President's day. No special junk food for THAT one. Plus, no one has EVER given me any special gifts for that day. I think so many people are secretly celebrating it and excluding me. You know what? Screw it. Just get your asses to the store today and get some good V-day candy before it sells out and you are stuck with only those nasty chalk candies that no human should have to eat.

Is this like a heart shape box that you push a button and it opens? I cannot figure out how a valentine would run on batteries.

that is awesome. For some reason though i thought you had JUST quit. Or maybe 9 months flew by. Didn't think I was asleep THAT long. BTW, Bakon is not allowed to make a joke about the number 9 photo that reciprocity posted.

People are often offering the noobs advice, one being to read a lot on here. Reading doesn't do much good unless you read between the lines. I have been off cigarettes for like four months or something. I remember when I first was planning an actual quit, I was thinking, "I wonder if I will make it a solid month" and somehow I did. I did not think I would last, honestly. But about reading between the lines, I see several join up, are so hardcore about quitting, pledge NOPE or whatever, then relapse. Of course at that point they sometimes just vanish with their tails between their legs. Even though no one is judging, they feel shame etc. For my own fight, the first three days were a bit tough but I did it. It was not until the third month hit that I started getting bad craves. I thought, "No one will know, I can just go buy some, smoke outside so no one smells it on me, and kind of hide it. I can smoke maybe one or two a day". But I never actually went to buy them. There is only one cigarette that would do anyways and though I REALLY miss them sometimes, I figure this - Do I want to be walking around with MY tail between my legs because I gave in to the nicotine addiction? So many come in, talk a big talk, but cannot walk the walk for long. I do not want to be one of those. I came in, talked big, and figured I will look REAL dumb if I cave. Bakon might even call me a Window Licker if I relapsed. There are also those stories of people suffering serious health problems as a result of smoking. I do not want to end up with cancer or have to walk around with oxygen. I can see it now... person on street - "So how exactly did this happen? (talking about my oxygen tank) me - "Cause i smoked, I didn't listen to the people on Quit Train forum back in the 2010's. " person on street - "WELLLL you dumb old twat, that was sure smart..." I know what you are thinking - "Oh right, I bet she relapsed!" No, I did not, you can come to my house and smell the place if you want. the only thing you will smell is my room mate farting a lot. she would kill me if she knew i said that. TLDR - One should learn from others' mistakes.

Yeah like bakon said. Something about wiping your ass with the window you just licked. That is one thing - the third day, week, and month can hit pretty hard. I was doing great until month three when just like out of nowhere, I wanted to smoke. Never actually caved though.

Still waiting for a check from Uncle Sam. Also looking forward to Feb 15th which is "1/2 off Valentine's day candy sale". I been having dreams lately about my room mate and I fighting. In waking life we get along just fine. I think cause there is a bit of trouble at work that has been pissing me off. Smoking dreams - For some reason when i have them, I am not typically smoking but just buying cigarettes by the gross or going around a cigarette factory snagging up a ton of them. Yeah like I mentioned, the worst of the battle may be yet to come. it took three months before I started getting hit real hard with cravings. I know you think I am trying to sound discouraging but it is more of a warning of the battle that may come. When I think of how it hit me three months in, which I was not expecting, I then think, "What other BS is coming in the way of trying to stay quit?"

Here we have Room of golden air by Mercyful Fate. The rest of the album is really good as well but this song almost brings a tear for me. This is my favorite instrumental of all time. For me it is like the mood of a calm winter night that is cold and snowy but not unbearably so. Ambient lights give everything a blueish color. No other disturbances. Just a calm, relaxed, time-standing-still feeling. Being at peace. Perhaps because I bought this CD during the Christmas holiday in 1993 when I got to spend some time in my home town. You know how some songs put you in a mood that is hard to describe? This is one of mine. It is a very strange mixture of easy listening, ambience, and metal. How is such a combination even possible? Listen for yourself.

"kick my ass Bakon".... Maybe the post was meant for fetlife and not here?

Today was the ultimate. My room mate and I discovered there exists a cereal called "chips ahoy". It is good. I have no idea what it is made of but it smells like cappuccino. Anyone who is concerned about healthy diets should not look in the kitchen at our house here. Almost nothing but junk food. People try to eat healthy but that just is not sustainable.

Is your mom a smoker? Anyways, if you quit now then you are less likely to have anything like that.