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G’day NOPE .....Not One Puff Ever.... (replace Ever with Min,Hour, Day as required.)

Congrats on quitting, but you need to rid yourself of nicotine completely. Get off those patches and get that nicotine, that insidious drug, out of your system for good! Cold turkey purge! The physical withdrawal symptoms are only bad for a few days. It helped me to see the withdrawal discomforts as my body riding itself of that nasty addiction and healing. The physical addiction is the little monster. The big monster is of course the mental addiction. I strongly recommend doing the daily "NOPE" pledge in this group, and keep in mind, you're freeing yourself from the enslavement of nicotine addiction!

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Hey there. Congrats on your quit! I did use lozenges, but I did not experience the white patches you are describing. How many per day are you using? Snd have you tried switching brands?

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Knowing about PAWS helped me. I hope awareness of it helps those who are wishing for it to just be all over. Patience. You'll get there! I promise; if you just don't smoke. FOR THOSE IN THEIR "STAY QUIT" MODE (Approx. 4 MOS to 2 YEARS QUIT towards FOREVER!): *** PAWS -- The 2nd Stage of Withdrawal *** The first stage of withdrawal is the acute stage which usually lasts at most a few weeks. During this stage, the physical withdrawal symptoms experienced may be different for every person. The second stage of withdrawal is called the POST-ACUTE WITHDRAWAL SYNDROME OR PAWS. During this stage you will have fewer physical symptoms, but more emotional & psychological withdrawal symptoms. Post-Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS) occurs because your brain chemistry is gradually returning to normal. As your brain improves, the levels of your brain chemicals fluctuate as they approach the new equilibrium causing Post-Acute Withdrawal Symptoms. Most people experience PAWS. The most common PAWS symptoms are: mood swings, anxiety, irritability, tiredness, variable energy, low enthusiasm, variable concentration & disturbed sleep. It feels like a roller coaster of symptoms. In the beginning, your symptoms will change from minute to minute and hour to hour. Later as you recover further they will disappear for a few weeks or months only to return again. As you continue to recover, the good stretches will get longer & longer. The bad periods of PAWS can be just as intense and last just as long. Each PAWS episode usually lasts for a few days. There is no obvious trigger for most episodes. You will wake up one day feeling irritable and have low energy. If you hang on for just a few days, it will lift just as quickly as it started. Each episode is time limited. Post-Acute Withdrawal usually lasts for 2 years. This is one of the most important things you need to remember. If you're up for the challenge you can get through this BUT if you think that PAWS will only last for a few months, then you'll get caught off guard, and when you're disappointed you're more likely to relapse. * BE PATIENT. You can get through recovery one day at a time. If you resent or bulldoze your way through it, you will become exhausted. PAWS symptoms are a sign that your brain is recovering. Don't resent them. Remember, even after one year, you are still only half way there. * GO WITH THE FLOW. You'll have lots of good days over the next two years. Enjoy them. You'll also have bad days. On those days, don't try to do too much. Take care of yourself. Focus on your recovery and you'll get through this. * PRACTICE SELF-CARE. Give yourself a lot of little breaks over the next two years. Tell yourself "what I am doing is enough". Be good to yourself. Sometimes you'll have little energy or enthusiasm for anything. Understand this & don't overbook your life. Give yourself permission to continue to focus on your recovery. PAWS can be a trigger for relapse. You can go weeks without any symptoms & then one day you wake up & are hit like a ton of bricks. You'll have slept badly. You'll be in a bad mood. Your energy will be low. If you think that PAWS only lasts for a few months or that you'll be different and it won't be as bad for you, then you will not be prepared for it & will get caught off guard but if you know what to expect you can do this. Relax. Don't get caught up in PAWS. Remember, EVERY RELAPSE, NO MATTER HOW SMALL UNDOES THE GAINS YOUR BRAIN HAS MADE DURING RECOVERY. WITHOUT ABSTINENCE, EVERYTHING WILL FALL APART. WITH ABSTINENCE, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. (Modified Source: addictionsandrecovery.org)

Smoked daily (1/2 pack) for ~3 years and I have quit entirely and been on a NRT patch system now for about 6 weeks, worked down to the lowest dosage (7 mg) and am still having physical withdrawal symptoms. I wanted to see if anyone had advice for how they managed the symptoms? Specifically and feeling muscle tension, tooth sensitivity, headaches, and feel my pulse in weird places (e.g., feet, legs, back). Nothing hurts much other than the minor headaches, but the rest is really unnerving and has me checking that my symptoms are normal or at least not abnormal.

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This! ^^^ You know, I never even understood I was a slave to this addiction until I'd been quit for awhile and then I could see clearly that my freedom to live my life as I wanted rather than having to follow the demands of my addiction was the greatest benefit of all from quitting the smokes. Getting to that point as soon as you can is key to freeing yourself @Kingelocin

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Hi, all brands and all different sizes. The minis aren’t bad but I still get the white ring around my mouth. they seem to me to be tacky, sticky. My mouth gets really dry and the sticky white stuff as it dissolves sticks to the roof of my mouth. One container of minis lasts two days. I high hopes of quitting these too soon

You are doing great @Kingelocin for 6 weeks!! Really great! I have never done the patches/lozenges, but what I did do is the weaning method which is the worst method you can do!! I worked my way down from about 3/4 to 1 pk a day, to 2 cigs a day! Absolute worst method there is. As most everyone on this site told me, "You will be in perpetual withdrawal, if you keep smoking 2 cigs a day. At first I didn't believe them, but after a few days of 2 cigs a day, (including going to a wedding with liquor and wine), I finally caved in and gave up my cigs for good! Not even 1 a day! I am NOT gonna tell you that it was easy, because it was horrible!!! BUT, the longer you stay quit, the easier it becomes!! @Kingelocin , I AM TOTALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT!! Good luck you to you, and I wish you the best of luck!!!

Hello and welcome to the Train. Sorry I never used the Lozenges either… I agree with trying to get in touch with the makers .to see if this is a side effect .. Hope you get it sorted . Take a seat… Read all you can on the Main Board , there is tons of good information to help you along

Hi @Sherberry & welcome about Quit Train & congrats on being over 1 month quit! That's a fabulous start. Like Jillar I've never used Lozenges. I do know people who have but I have never heard them complain of this issue. Perhaps there's someone on this forum that can chime in with some better info. for you. Hope you stick around. There is a lot of great quit info here for you and support from other quitters.

Congratulations on your great Quit . Your body is healing from all the chemicals it’s used to being put in X amount a day . All you’re going through is temporary … Keep going , it does get better

Welcome @Kingelocin! I, too, used NRT to quit. And as the dose tapered, it kept me in more or less a constant state of withdrawal. Misery! I got fed up and quit the patches and lozenges altogether, and went through the final phase of withdrawal without nicotine. Tough, but I felt loads better after a week or two. Whatever your approach, I promise it gets better!

Hi Kingelocin and Welcome to the Train. Sometimes in early quit, anxiety and stress can cause head aches and palpitations. I had quite bad palpitations for about 4 months when I first quit. I found relaxation helped me, lying on my bed with headphones on, listening to hypnotherapy, and ASMR, was so soothing, their voices really relax you. Also audio books, and relaxing sleep music and sounds do wonders. Remember to treat yourself too, it’s amazing how the money adds up when your not buying smokes. stay determined

Hi @Kingelocin! I would agree with what @jillar said and would also add that quit symptoms can be numerous and vary from person to person so try not to focus on those too much as you'll only worry yourself for no reason because if they're truly quit symptoms, they will eventually disappear. As Jillar mentioned, keep as busy (distracted) as possible. Exercise is a great way to distract yourself, even just going for regular walks! Your 6 weeks is a fabulous start toward a life long quit but it's relatively short in terms of your overall quit. I'm sure you're seeing some imporovement in the frequency and intensity of cravings by now and that will continue. I know when I quit, I struggled for months with a short temper. That eventually disipated and I'm now a sweet little angel . My point is that some quit symptoms can hang on for some time. My 2 cents; go with the flow and you'll get through just fine in the end. Oh and, stick around here on Quit Train. You'll never get better support

Welcome aboard @Kingelocin and congratulations on your deciding to take your freedom back Googling my symptoms was also how I found my first support board. There's no better place to be than with a group of people who have been through or are going through what you are going through. As far as your symptoms go, you can expect them to last at least few months so you still have a ways to go. And you will still need to go through the nicotine withdrawal once you get off the patches. I used distractions, playing games, reading funny threads in our Social section or educating myself on the main section. I also found supporting others took my mind off my misery. I also was addicted to soft peppermint puffs and sucked on them for the whole first year of my quit. And when things got really bad I took out my JAC (jillars air cigarette) an imaginary cigarette I pretended I was holding in my fingers and then going through the motions of "smoking" it. It worked great at tricking my mind into thinking it was getting the real thing Hang in there, because the icky feelings are only temporary!

Thank You everyone. This journey was not easy in the begining but with the encouragement I received here on the train made it all possible. Doreen, Jillar and Reci just to name a few really helped me a lot. The support community here on the train is nothing but extraordinary. I am proud to be a member of this community. I love to pay it forward every chance I get because everyone deserves to be smoke free. So, again thank you all.